Mailing List CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru Message #54
From: Laurent Siebenmann <sieben@cristal.math.u-psud.fr>
Subject: ASCII-Cyrillic
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:13:14 +0100 (WET DST)
To: <CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru>, <bnb@ams.org>, <lcs@cristal.math.u-psud.fr>, <lesenko@mx.ihep.su>


Dear Colleagues,

All languages with which I am familiar, Russian excepted,
have a reasonably convenient ASCII representation. TeX has
been a major contributor on this front with its linear
ASCII notation for mathematics. In spite of the narrow
limitations of the ASCII standard, TeX's math notation is
both intelligible and typable.  TeX has also contributed an
ASCII format for the western european languages --
featuring Knuth's accent macros \', \`, \^, \", etc. The
precision of these ASCII formats is perfect while the
readability and typability are acceptable although
imperfect.

For some time I have been toying with a scheme that can
provide an ASCII format for Russian with just the same
virtues.

To convince you that this is a hopeful possibility, I have
converted to ASCII several recent Russian language
contributions to CyrTeX-ru@vsu.ru and I attach them below.

I invite comments/enquiries on the readability, typability
and accuracy of this ASCII encoding that I currently call
ASCII-Cyrillic.

Recently I have programmed a converter in TeX and will
release it when obvious misfeatures have been remedied
with your assistance!

 Very cordially

          Laurent S.

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!Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #181
!From: !Soloviov !Oleg <!olejorik@!softhome.!net>
!Subject: !Re: Otvet: !Useful !information
!Date: !Wed, 31 !May 2000 08:23:37 +0400
!To: !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru ((!Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group))

Po povodu

> K nescasth'u, ukazannyj adres ne rabotaet.
> Mo'zet esth cto-to "podvodnoe" dl'a proniknoveni'a na dannyj sajt?
> !ARZ

'A duma'u, dostatocno ubrath liwni'u bukvu iz slova Lipe'tk ---
 !http://!corsair.!stu.!lipetsk.!ru/~!lubenets

---
S privetom,
 Oleg.

Piwite, zvonite, telegrafirujte na: !olejorik@!softhome.!net ;
                                   !olejorik@!mail.!ru


!Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #183
!From: !Vit !Rudovich <!vit_!r@!geocities.!com>
!Sender: !vit
!Subject: Kak pecata'ut knigi v Pitere?
!Date: !Wed, 14 !Jun 2000 22:40:05 +0100
!To: !Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group <!CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru>


Vopros naverno ne sovsem v temu, no dostupa k FIDO net, a uznath xocets'a.

Esli sdelath kni'zku na !TeX, to gde v Pitere ee mo'zno napecatath?
Mo'zno li ispolhzovath !LaTeX2!e ili vse dol'zno byth v cistom !TeX?
Cto lucwe otdavath isxodnik ili !PDF?

!Regards!

!Vit

--
!Vit !Rudovich !vit_!r@!geocities.!com
           !http://!www.!geocities.!com/!vit_!r/



!Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #184
!From: !Vit !Rudovich <!vit_!r@!geocities.!com>
!Sender: !vit
!Subject: !Re: Kak pecata'ut knigi v Pitere?
!Date: !Thu, 15 !Jun 2000 22:15:12 +0100
!Cc: !Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group <!CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru>


!Yury !Basin !wrote:
>
...
> > Esli sdelath kni'zku na !TeX, to gde v Pitere ee mo'zno napecatath?
>
> V tipografii...
> Voprosa ne pon'al: esli kni'zka (maket) u'ze sdelana (v cem ugodno), to pecatath
> mo'zno v l'uboj tipografii.
...
> Lucwe plenki (+belok), a esli !PDF, to vse ravno belok - dl'a kontrol'a.
>
> A cego, sobstvenno, sdelath xocets'a?

Itak. Esth tekst (tocnee net, no 'eto ne va'zno). Istoriceski napisan
na !LaTeX, xot'a i bez formul. Esth 'zelanie sdelath iz 'etogo ki'zku.
Pricem tak, ctoby napecatath v Pitere (za svoi denhgi, a v Pitere ctoby
spisath poezdki iz Germanii s nalogov)

Vopros nomer raz: Kak texniceski 'eto sdelath? Pri tom, cto plenki (+belok)
xocets'a vse-taki delath na meste, a s izdatelhskim delom znakomstvo
cisto poverxnostnoe.

Vopros nomer dva: Kak 'eto proxodit v organiza'tionnom plane?
Cerez kakoe izdatelhstvo 'eto lucwe delath?
Kak uznath gde cto skolhko stoit i kakie u nix trebovani'a?

!Regards!

!Vit

!PS: Tekst napisan lesenkoj (ka'zdoe predlo'zenie na novoj strocke,
 dlinnye predlo'zeni'a razbity po strokam i napisany s otstupom)
 pl'us vnutri kuca kommentariev.

--
!Vit !Rudovich !vit_!r@!geocities.!com
           !http://!www.!geocities.!com/!vit_!r/



!Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #194
!From: !Vladimir !Volovich <!vvv@!vvv.!vsu.!ru>
!Sender: !vvv@!video.!uic.!vsu.!ru
!Subject: !Re: Otvet: !LH3.4!a
!Date: 14 !Jul 2000 15:23:38 +0400
!To: <!CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru> (!Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group)


"!RA" == !Rifhat !Aleev !writes:

 !RA> Wrifty !Concrete --- 'eto te, cto ispolhzovalish dl'a "Konkretnoj
 !RA> matematiki" Knuta&sotovari'wi, tak li 'eto?

da, 'eto oni.

 !RA> Esli da, to po kakim pricinam oni tak dolgo byli nedostupny, to
 !RA> esth, ne budut li oni platnymi?

net, oni ne budut platnymi.

!Best,
!v.



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