Return-Path: Received: from matups.math.u-psud.fr ([129.175.50.4] verified) by vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.1) with ESMTP id 1834282 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:15:22 +0400 Received: from stats.math.u-psud.fr (beryl.math.u-psud.fr [129.175.54.194]) by matups.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id IAA03016 ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:11:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from sieben@localhost) by stats.math.u-psud.fr (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id IAA19832; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:13:14 +0100 (WET DST) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:13:14 +0100 (WET DST) From: Laurent Siebenmann Message-Id: <200008280713.IAA19832@stats.math.u-psud.fr> To: CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru, bnb@ams.org, lcs@cristal.math.u-psud.fr, lesenko@mx.ihep.su Subject: ASCII-Cyrillic Dear Colleagues, All languages with which I am familiar, Russian excepted, have a reasonably convenient ASCII representation. TeX has been a major contributor on this front with its linear ASCII notation for mathematics. In spite of the narrow limitations of the ASCII standard, TeX's math notation is both intelligible and typable. TeX has also contributed an ASCII format for the western european languages -- featuring Knuth's accent macros \', \`, \^, \", etc. The precision of these ASCII formats is perfect while the readability and typability are acceptable although imperfect. For some time I have been toying with a scheme that can provide an ASCII format for Russian with just the same virtues. To convince you that this is a hopeful possibility, I have converted to ASCII several recent Russian language contributions to CyrTeX-ru@vsu.ru and I attach them below. I invite comments/enquiries on the readability, typability and accuracy of this ASCII encoding that I currently call ASCII-Cyrillic. Recently I have programmed a converter in TeX and will release it when obvious misfeatures have been remedied with your assistance! Very cordially Laurent S. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% !File: !vcard.!vcf (398!bytes) !Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #181 !From: !Soloviov !Oleg !Subject: !Re: Otvet: !Useful !information !Date: !Wed, 31 !May 2000 08:23:37 +0400 !To: !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru ((!Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group)) Po povodu > K nescasth'u, ukazannyj adres ne rabotaet. > Mo'zet esth cto-to "podvodnoe" dl'a proniknoveni'a na dannyj sajt? > !ARZ 'A duma'u, dostatocno ubrath liwni'u bukvu iz slova Lipe'tk --- !http://!corsair.!stu.!lipetsk.!ru/~!lubenets --- S privetom, Oleg. Piwite, zvonite, telegrafirujte na: !olejorik@!softhome.!net ; !olejorik@!mail.!ru !Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #183 !From: !Vit !Rudovich !Sender: !vit !Subject: Kak pecata'ut knigi v Pitere? !Date: !Wed, 14 !Jun 2000 22:40:05 +0100 !To: !Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group Vopros naverno ne sovsem v temu, no dostupa k FIDO net, a uznath xocets'a. Esli sdelath kni'zku na !TeX, to gde v Pitere ee mo'zno napecatath? Mo'zno li ispolhzovath !LaTeX2!e ili vse dol'zno byth v cistom !TeX? Cto lucwe otdavath isxodnik ili !PDF? !Regards! !Vit -- !Vit !Rudovich !vit_!r@!geocities.!com !http://!www.!geocities.!com/!vit_!r/ !Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #184 !From: !Vit !Rudovich !Sender: !vit !Subject: !Re: Kak pecata'ut knigi v Pitere? !Date: !Thu, 15 !Jun 2000 22:15:12 +0100 !Cc: !Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group !Yury !Basin !wrote: > ... > > Esli sdelath kni'zku na !TeX, to gde v Pitere ee mo'zno napecatath? > > V tipografii... > Voprosa ne pon'al: esli kni'zka (maket) u'ze sdelana (v cem ugodno), to pecatath > mo'zno v l'uboj tipografii. ... > Lucwe plenki (+belok), a esli !PDF, to vse ravno belok - dl'a kontrol'a. > > A cego, sobstvenno, sdelath xocets'a? Itak. Esth tekst (tocnee net, no 'eto ne va'zno). Istoriceski napisan na !LaTeX, xot'a i bez formul. Esth 'zelanie sdelath iz 'etogo ki'zku. Pricem tak, ctoby napecatath v Pitere (za svoi denhgi, a v Pitere ctoby spisath poezdki iz Germanii s nalogov) Vopros nomer raz: Kak texniceski 'eto sdelath? Pri tom, cto plenki (+belok) xocets'a vse-taki delath na meste, a s izdatelhskim delom znakomstvo cisto poverxnostnoe. Vopros nomer dva: Kak 'eto proxodit v organiza'tionnom plane? Cerez kakoe izdatelhstvo 'eto lucwe delath? Kak uznath gde cto skolhko stoit i kakie u nix trebovani'a? !Regards! !Vit !PS: Tekst napisan lesenkoj (ka'zdoe predlo'zenie na novoj strocke, dlinnye predlo'zeni'a razbity po strokam i napisany s otstupom) pl'us vnutri kuca kommentariev. -- !Vit !Rudovich !vit_!r@!geocities.!com !http://!www.!geocities.!com/!vit_!r/ !Mailing !List !CyrTeX-!ru@!vsu.!ru !Message #194 !From: !Vladimir !Volovich !Sender: !vvv@!video.!uic.!vsu.!ru !Subject: !Re: Otvet: !LH3.4!a !Date: 14 !Jul 2000 15:23:38 +0400 !To: (!Cyrillic !TeX !Users !Group) "!RA" == !Rifhat !Aleev !writes: !RA> Wrifty !Concrete --- 'eto te, cto ispolhzovalish dl'a "Konkretnoj !RA> matematiki" Knuta&sotovari'wi, tak li 'eto? da, 'eto oni. !RA> Esli da, to po kakim pricinam oni tak dolgo byli nedostupny, to !RA> esth, ne budut li oni platnymi? net, oni ne budut platnymi. !Best, !v.