Return-Path: Received: by relay1.vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 5.3.13) with PIPE id 307208979; Fri, 20 May 2011 19:08:25 +0400 Received: from ms16-1.1blu.de ([89.202.0.34] verified) by relay1.vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.13) with ESMTPS id 307202723 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Fri, 20 May 2011 18:09:04 +0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=relay1.vsu.ru; client-ip=89.202.0.34; envelope-from=pgt@tanovski.de Received: from [87.172.172.169] (helo=munka.dynalias.org) by ms16-1.1blu.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QNQRS-0004dy-GF for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:12:38 +0200 Received: by munka.dynalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3CA54D2032; Fri, 20 May 2011 16:12:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 16:12:37 +0200 From: Plamen Tanovski To: Cyrillic TeX Users Group Subject: Re: Accented Cyrillic Vocals in Unicode Message-ID: <20110520141237.GA21764@mail.tanovski.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Con-Id: 42367 X-Originating-IP: 87.172.172.169 X-DrWeb-FlyTrap-Class: SPAM X-DrWeb-FlyTrap-CID: 1 X-DrWeb-FlyTrap-ID: 4511063 X-Junk-Score: [XXXXXXXXXX] > PT> The problem is, that there are no accented cyrillic vocals in > PT> unicode except for i and e with grave. Perhaps I don't need to > PT> mention, that accented vocals are urgently needed for homonymes an= d > PT> in textbooks. So, I think, accented vocals should finally go into > PT> unicode. But I was told, that unicode doesn't provide slots for > PT> letters anymore, which can be made by the combination of other > PT> letters. >=20 > I see that this question was already discussed on the Unicode mailing > list: there is a thread "Cyrillic - accented/acuted vowels" on >=20 > http://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2005-m05/thread.html#2 I asked the same thing on the list again and it seems that there is no way getting cyrillic accented vowels (CAV) into unicode.=20 http://unicode.org/mail-arch/unicode-ml/y2011-m05/0036.html So forget the ... unicode. Let's go back to LaTeX. How to make CAV available? I guess, 3 steps are needed: 1. create LICR representation (\cyraacute, \cyragreve, etc.) 2. create new T2 encodings 3. modify the hyphenation patterns, so accented vowels behave like the unaccented. The first question then is, which vowels can be accented. As far as I know, =B8 in russian doesn't need to be accented, because it always gets the stress. Right? Or how about =A2 in belorussian? best regards