Return-Path: Received: from [194.67.23.40] (HELO smtp4.port.ru) by vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.1) with ESMTP id 1814830 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:23:53 +0400 Received: from ppp2.spiiras.nw.ru ([195.19.200.173] helo=myke) by smtp4.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #44) id 13PUKR-000Cfb-00 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:23:47 +0400 Message-ID: <004401c00878$485b13c0$adc813c3@myke> From: "Mikhail Kolodin" To: "Cyrillic TeX Users Group" References: Subject: Re: ASCII accessibility Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:09:11 +0400 Organization: Private MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Dear Laurent, > > Here is a question about accessibility of ASCII characters > in **Russian** keyboards -- MS Windows for a start. > But DOS and unix too. I work with all of them, and the keyboard is just the same... :) but the troubles exist: 1) we have different encodings (alternative (cp866), windows (cp1251), unix (koi8r), others), 2) we have different layouts (correspondence between characters and their places on the keyboard): usually Cyrillc chars are on the same keys as Latin, but are colored red instead of black, the layout corresponds in general to that of typewriter; some chars (~`\|/|?'",.;:@%) exist, but are placed on different keys in Cyrillic and Latin modes (that also varies with type of keyboard and Cyrillization program and specific layout scheme (that may be reprogrammable)). > While typing English, which of the following ASCII non-letter > characters are available on your keyboard in a simple > keystroke position, and which with modifier key(s) and which > only with extreme difficulty. > > ! " # % & ' * / () > < = > @ > [ \ ] ^ _ ` > { | } ~ On my keyboard .\=- are typed directly, !"?;%:?*()_+/, are typed using Shift, others require switching to Latin mode (1-2 additional keypresses, depending on the scheme used). \bye Mikhail Kolodin, mailto:myke@mail.ru, http://myke.da.ru, ICQ#10895085, 2:5030/207.16@FidoNet