Return-Path: Received: from zenzor-transit.ua.net ([193.124.48.165] verified) by vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.1) with ESMTP id 1890438 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:21:57 +0400 Received: from dobroua by clipper.ua.net with UUCP id <622108-15194>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:21:10 +0300 Received: from maa.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by dobrobut.kiev.ua (8.8.5/8.6.9) with UUCP id TAA03261; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:13:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: by kilots.kiev.ua (UUPC/@ v7.00, 07Jan97) id AA23304; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:09:46 +0400 (MSD) To: lcs@topo.math.u-psud.fr Cc: CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru References: Message-Id: Organization: None From: "Anatoliy A. Malyarenko" Date: Thu, 21 Sep 0 19:09:45 +0400 X-Mailer: BML [MS/DOS Beauty Mail v1.36H] Subject: Re: ASCII-Cyrillic, Ukranian style Lines: 132 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Mr. Ziebenmann! Modern Ukrainian language contains 33 letters. They are: Unicode name T2A name Explanation ____________ ________ ___________ afii10017 \CYRA Cyrillic capital letter a afii10065 \cyra Cyrillic small letter a afii10018 \CYRB Cyrillic capital letter be afii10066 \cyrb Cyrillic small letter be afii10019 \CYRV Cyrillic capital letter ve afii10067 \cyrv Cyrillic small letter ve afii10020 \CYRG Cyrillic capital letter ghe afii10068 \cyrg Cyrillic small letter ghe afii10050 \CYRGUP Cyrillic capital letter ghe with upturn afii10098 \cyrgup Cyrillic small letter ghe with upturn afii10021 \CYRD Cyrillic capital letter de afii10069 \cyrd Cyrillic small letter de afii10022 \CYRE Cyrillic capital letter ie afii10070 \cyre Cyrillic small letter ie afii10053 \CYRIE Cyrillic capital letter ukrainian ie afii10101 \cyrie Cyrillic small letter ukrainian ie afii10024 \CYRZH Cyrillic capital letter zhe afii10072 \cyrzh Cyrillic small letter zhe afii10025 \CYRZ Cyrillic capital letter ze afii10073 \cyrz Cyrillic small letter ze afii10026 \CYRI Cyrillic capital letter i afii10074 \cyri Cyrillic small letter i afii10055 \CYRII Cyrillic capital letter ukrainian i afii10103 \cyrii Cyrillic small letter ukrainian i afii10056 \CYRYI Cyrillic capital letter yi afii10104 \cyryi Cyrillic small letter yi afii10027 \CYRISHRT Cyrillic capital letter short i afii10075 \cyrishrt Cyrillic small letter short i afii10028 \CYRK Cyrillic capital letter ka afii10076 \cyrk Cyrillic small letter ka afii10029 \CYRL Cyrillic capital letter el afii10077 \cyrl Cyrillic small letter el afii10030 \CYRM Cyrillic capital letter em afii10078 \cyrm Cyrillic small letter em afii10031 \CYRN Cyrillic capital letter en afii10079 \cyrn Cyrillic small letter en afii10032 \CYRO Cyrillic capital letter o afii10080 \cyro Cyrillic small letter o afii10033 \CYRP Cyrillic capital letter pe afii10081 \cyrp Cyrillic small letter pe afii10034 \CYRR Cyrillic capital letter er afii10082 \cyrr Cyrillic small letter er afii10035 \CYRS Cyrillic capital letter es afii10083 \cyrs Cyrillic small letter es afii10036 \CYRT Cyrillic capital letter te afii10084 \cyrt Cyrillic small letter te afii10037 \CYRU Cyrillic capital letter u afii10085 \cyru Cyrillic small letter u afii10038 \CYRF Cyrillic capital letter ef afii10086 \cyrf Cyrillic small letter ef afii10039 \CYRH Cyrillic capital letter ha afii10087 \cyrh Cyrillic small letter ha afii10040 \CYRC Cyrillic capital letter tse afii10088 \cyrc Cyrillic small letter tse afii10041 \CYRCH Cyrillic capital letter che afii10089 \cyrch Cyrillic small letter che afii10042 \CYRSH Cyrillic capital letter sha afii10090 \cyrsh Cyrillic small letter sha afii10043 \CYRSHCH Cyrillic capital letter shcha afii10091 \cyrshch Cyrillic small letter shcha afii10048 \CYRYU Cyrillic capital letter yu afii10096 \cyryu Cyrillic small letter yu afii10049 \CYRYA Cyrillic capital letter ya afii10097 \cyrya Cyrillic small letter ya afii10046 \CYRSFTSN Cyrillic capital letter soft sign afii10094 \cyrsftsn Cyrillic small letter soft sign A letter ghe with upturn has very interesting history. In 1928, Ukrainian government approved rules of Ukrainian orthography. According to these rules the alphabet contained a letter ghe with upturn. In the second half of 30th, Stalin decided to simplify Ukrainian language and to bring it nearer to Russian. In particular, a letter ghe with upturn was excluded from the alphabet. But Ukrainians, who lived abroad, continued to use rules of 1928. Now I hold in my hands a book by Ivan Dzyuba "Internationalism or Russification", which was published in Canada in Ukrainian in 1968. It uses a letter ghe with upturn. Probably, your Ukrainian translation of the Holy Bible is printed in Canada or some other Western country. After obtaining independence in 1991, Ukrainian government returned to the rules of 1928. In particular, the letter ghe with upturn is present in the alphabet. I use it in my mathematical papers. As you can see from the alphabet, Ukrainian language does not contain hard sign. An ordinary apostrophe (') is widely used instead. With best regards, Anatoliy A. Malyarenko.