Return-Path: Received: from [194.67.23.33] (HELO smtp2.port.ru) by vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.1) with ESMTP id 1818703 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:57:29 +0400 Received: from ppp2.spiiras.nw.ru ([195.19.200.173] helo=myke) by smtp2.port.ru with smtp (Exim 3.14 #44) id 13Q7Fa-0005LY-00 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:57:22 +0400 Message-ID: <000d01c009d4$a1983f00$adc813c3@myke> From: "Mikhail Kolodin" To: "Cyrillic TeX Users Group" References: Subject: Re: ASCII and Cyrillic (sas left and right double quotes) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 03:50:06 +0400 Organization: Private MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Dear Laurent, > > 1) we have different encodings (alternative (cp866), windows > > (cp1251), unix (koi8r), others), > > It would be nice if these were each just one and not a cloud > of variants. Ah, at least cp1251 has no variants (right?) > and that may be one of its strengths. :) Alas, it HAD variants, because \"E, \"e were sometimes place in different places. > > usually Cyrillc chars are on the same keys as Latin, but > > are colored red instead of black, the layout corresponds in > > general to that of typewriter; some chars (~`\|/|?'",.;:@%) > > exist, but are placed on different keys in Cyrillic and Latin > > modes > > Yes, I recall this hazily from my last trip to Russian in > 1997. I wish I had taken a photo! You don't have a keyboard > diagram image from documentation to pass on? I don't have documentation, but here is my keyboard: latin unshifted: `1234567890-=\ qwertyuiop[] asdfghjkl;' zxcvbnm,./ latin shifted: ~!@#$%^&*()_+| QWERTYUIOP{} ASDFGHJKL:" ZXCVBNM<>? cyrillic unshifted: (you need to have Cyrillic driver to read this, note: the same driver as I have :) £1234567890-=\ ÊÃÕËÅÎÇÛÝÚÈß ÆÙ×ÁÐÒÏÌÄÖÜ ÑÞÓÍÉÔØÂÀ. cyrillic shifted: ³!"?;%:?*()_+/ êãõëåîçûýúèÿ æù÷áðòïìäöü ñþóíéôøâà, but in Cyrillic version the layout of chacarters differs fro that is printed on the keys, I had to write characters on the keys myself... :( > > On my keyboard > > .\=- are typed directly, > > !"?;%:?*()_+/, are typed using Shift, > > These answers are for the Russian Cyrillic register. I was > in fact asking the same question for the English register or > programmer's register. What there? What are English and programmers registers? \bye Mikhail Kolodin, mailto:myke@mail.ru, http://myke.da.ru, ICQ#10895085, 2:5030/207.16@FidoNet