Return-Path: Received: from [213.93.248.84] (HELO russisk.no) by vsu.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b7) with SMTP id 4113105 for CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:32:29 +0300 Received: from 192.168.0.2 ([192.168.0.2] verified) by russisk.no (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b8) with SMTP id S.0000571588 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:32:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:32:22 +0100 From: leif halvard silli Subject: Re: Cyrillic Language Kit To: CyrTeX-en@vsu.ru Message-ID: <3087372742.Leif_Halvard_Silli0002@192.168.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Magellan 2.0.1.141 (Macintosh) Laurent Siebenmann wrote: >Hi Lief, > >Is the Mac Cyrillic Language Kit you mentioned available >on internet independent of the huge Russian Mac OS? >I have a "universal" version which alas is Latin only. Since MacOS 9.0 all the language kits are available inside the MacOS Ins= tallation CD. They was also included on 8.5 and 8.6 I, but I think the C= yrillic kit was left out, for some reason. But you might be on an older = system? I myself also have "Kit Cyrilique" (yes, french) which I bought = for system 7.1 and upwards many years ago. >I have hesitated to go get a Russian system as I never >expected it would work with a western keyboard. Is it not >designed for a keyboard on which the Cyrillic characters >are *engraved* in parallel with Latin? I have only tried Russian system very seldom. On my old LC 475 or COlor = Classic I once tried version 7.01, which is available on the net. As for= the cyrillic/latin engraved paralell keyboards I have only seen them fo= r PC. There are free language kits however. On = they have one whose name I don't remember, but you find it there easily= =2E They have 3-4 versions of it, for different systems. And then we hav= e Ultimate Cyrillic Script from (those peopl= e also work at FontLab). I tried both. They are quite similar, I think, = but UCS is in my view more powerful. >Quite frankly I have never seen a Mac Russian Keyboard; >the Mac is rarissime in Russia for lack of early and >timely promotion. I did see some, e.g in a computing centre in Podolsk... but I did not no= tice how the keyboard looked like. But I assume that the keyboard doesn'= t matter. YOu can use any language version of the keyboard on any mac. O= nly trouble I've had is with USB-keyboards (from Apple and MS) on an old= er mac with USB-card. ON that computer only US-layout *and* (!) russian = layout worked (but not russian qwerty). >But I have seen many PC Cyrillic keyboards and they >desperately need the engraving of both scripts; I will >describe them briefly (next post). My guess is that the >Russian Mac will prove quite similar. No, I think the mac keyboards are completely language independent. Of co= urse it can help the typer to have letters engraved, but that is another= matter. --=20 leif